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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 08:27:23 PM »
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I sometimes use it to get help with my mods and for my maps(which is currently doing 0 maps).
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 01:41:22 AM »
you don't contribute through your sigs though ;)

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Instead of a sig, then, how about an updated profile page, almost like (gasp) MySpace?

i already thought about having a rather full featured profile page instead of sigs and i think this is a great idea. It'll consist of something like

* IM info (Jabber, ICQ, Gtalk, Skype, MSN, bla...)
* An info text about yourself (think "big signature")
* Friends network? (this is something to be evaluated, but might make sense since PMs are replaced by emails)

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PM's are uber important, how else can I contact a person without any of their other info


You need an email address to register, so there's a way to contact people. And if the PM system is transparent you don't even need to know the other persons email address.

think "PMs, they just end up in your mailbox instead of on a forum page".

i always hated how i get an "PM received" notification, need to go to the forum, read the pm and answer there.

instead i want to get a "here's a PM, read the text" mail, and a) reply via mail (a special service in the forum takes care that it's send to the other forum user), or go to the forum and reply there.

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 04:19:44 AM »
What about people who don't like being contacted through email? Or people who really want to keep their email hidden? (especially from spambots and email harvesters) Or the people who check the forums more regularly than their email? (I know I'm of that breed)

I think PMs are rather important. If the notification thing bugs you so much, have the PM notification email contain the PM's text followed by a link to reply to said PM. Simple enough.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 06:43:04 AM »
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What about people who really want to keep their email hidden?

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And if the PM system is transparent you don't even need to know the other persons email address.

per default mail addresses will be hidden. The receiver will only see that it was sent via the forum, by whom and a way to reply (via the forum).

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What about people who don't like being contacted through email?

The currently get an email notification when receiving PMs anyway. Ok, they can turn it off, but... well. I think you'll be able to switch up the "PM me via the forum" function as whole.
Yes, this would still piss of the "i want to receive PMs via the forum, but i want no mail notification" people, but i'd guess that there aren't too many.

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Or the people who check the forums more regularly than their email? (I know I'm of that breed)
Then a chat is more for suited to than a PM system anyway ;)

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I think PMs are rather important. If the notification thing bugs you so much, have the PM notification email contain the PM's text followed by a link to reply to said PM. Simple enough.

it's not only that it bugs me, implementing a PM system also adds up to quite some work. and currently the cost (of work) outweights the benefits.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2007, 10:54:37 AM »
I'm with LKAs meaning that people that really want a signature can type it into their post :)
PMs aren't useless but if you have an email adress: Why don't use it? I think it's better, but that's only my oppinion ;)
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2007, 02:35:41 PM »
Well alright, I'll settle with the No PM thing then. Signatures? Go ahead and take 'em out. I've been to plenty a forum that had sigs turned off. It'd probably be much more worth it to put that sig space onto peoples' profile page anyways. That way you can put as much on there as you want without cluttering up posts. =P
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 02:42:04 PM »
*nods*

and as i said: there will be a certain kind of PM system. they just will be stored in your mailbox instead of my server.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2007, 03:29:29 PM »
I use the PM system to verify users as they join the board.  I don't mind the new system, but how about making it easier to approve new users with working email address verfication and a check box on the signup for "I have read and agree with the rules".
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2007, 03:32:01 PM »
I like to have my PM and Email stuff completely seperate...well doesnt matter since I dont plan on using the software :P
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 05:40:47 PM »
on the pm note: what if someone has no email adress? like they put a fake one in instead?
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 07:11:04 PM »
That is where the email verification system comes in.  Only valid emails should be accepted.
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 01:46:43 AM »
jepp. no email, no registration. just as any other website. you still can use fake addresses, but then you won't get any PMs. big deal? no, it was your choice anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2007, 02:41:13 PM »
I'm going to have to agree with Florian on these points.  PM malboxes are a major annoyance, and I haven't found much of redeeming quality in many forum sigs.

blahblah is sounding way too cool now, though.  Is there any way I could get involved?
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 02:46:20 PM »
if you know ruby on rails yes ;)
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2007, 01:47:48 PM »
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if you know ruby on rails yes ;)


Well, I'm quickly picking it up.  I'm currently trying to get a mephisto blog up at http://operes.insecti.com (obviously not ready yet).
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