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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2009, 08:59:59 AM »
If history books had both sides of the story, then American kids will grow up to hate their country for what it's done, and america has caused a ton of issues in the world.

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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2009, 11:59:34 AM »
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If history books had both sides of the story, then American kids will grow up to hate their country for what it's done, and America has caused a ton of issues in the world.
so have plenty of other places in the world.  but its better to acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them rather than to be all emo and hate our country.  you don't see anyone (correct me if I'm wrong Tanuki) from Germany going "baaaawwwwwwwwwww  nazi's were evil" /cut
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2009, 12:27:27 PM »
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so have plenty of other places in the world.  but its better to acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them rather than to be all emo and hate our country.  you don't see any one (correct me if I'm wrong Tanuki) from Germany going "baaaawwwwwwwwwww  nazi's were evil" /cut
Do you even know how fu[sup:3p2no8ih][/sup:3p2no8ih]cking irritating it is to have somebody call me a nazi just because I'm half a german and live there, no matter how green my views probably are? I really don't get why people have to be bigots despite knowing Germany is totally different nowadays.

Then again we also have loads of stereotypes of fatassery and brainlessness concerning america. This is surprisingly related:
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If history books had both sides of the story, then American kids will grow up to hate their country for what it's done, and America has caused a ton of issues in the world.
I'd actually like you guys to reflect on WWII for once, it's pretty recent history. Most people don't even seem to know that much about it.

And that there are actually americans that don't even know about the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki or don't care for it is terrible, imo Pearl Harbor is almost a joke in comparison, Japan attacked a military base that everybody bawwws about and America nuked two cities leaving them with cancer and devastation. And hell, America turns Pearl Harbor into a tourist attraction and moviestar while Japan rebuilds and builds a memorial at zero point.

Speaking of one-sided historical accounts I'd much rather mention Vietnam :V


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You'd wish America actually did something in Darfur without needing an incentive such as oil, therefore fulfilling it's own stereotypes. |:


On an unrelated and more happy note: American Civil War is one hell of an interesting topic that I enjoyed learning about when I was over there for a bit, you guys don't have to deal with a sh[sub:3p2no8ih][/sub:3p2no8ih]itstorm of kings and queens and medival things. Personally I find native americans to be incredibly fascinating, but most replies I get when I say that immediately reference alcohol abuse and casino-ownership because people can't look at the times before you guys conquered the continent and turned it into a world of cars and consumer culture. That's right eliot, I'm looking at you there.

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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2009, 05:24:29 PM »
Tanuki had a lot of interesting things to say there. It seems like it happens often where an extreme group acts (ex. Neo-Nazi groups), and they are taken to reflect an entire group of people. Same thing has occured with the Muslim or Islamic faiths. Also I find it interesting how since the American Revolution, there have been few battles that have actually taken place on American soil. It's a lot easier to fight that way.

And I do agree that the question of America's bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is rather complex. I also like the call-out for Darfur - Add Uganda or any other of numerous countries to that.
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2009, 05:43:44 PM »
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so have plenty of other places in the world.  but its better to acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them rather than to be all emo and hate our country.  you don't see any one (correct me if I'm wrong Tanuki) from Germany going "baaaawwwwwwwwwww  nazi's were evil" /cut
Do you even know how fu[sup:39oh2bry][/sup:39oh2bry]cking irritating it is to have somebody call me a nazi just because I'm half a german and live there, no matter how green my views probably are? I really don't get why people have to be bigots despite knowing Germany is totally different nowadays.
 We'll I don't recall anyone calling you a Nazi. in fact there were/are Nazis all around the world not just in Germany,

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And that there are actually americans that don't even know about the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki or don't care for it is terrible, imo Pearl Harbor is almost a joke in comparison, Japan attacked a military base that everybody bawwws about and America nuked two cities leaving them with cancer and devastation. And hell, America turns Pearl Harbor into a tourist attraction and moviestar while Japan rebuilds and builds a memorial at zero point.

It's true, America Does Make a huge deal of everything, yet freely bombs whatever the heck they want, in fact I couldn't even imagine what it would be like if the middle east has bombed us as much as we have them. and the whole 9/11 deal, sure it was bad, but It was just two buildings, now compare that to two cities, and decide which is worse.


Also Vietnam, we sprayed entire forests with "agent orange" and leave devistating effects years later

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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2009, 10:38:47 PM »
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so have plenty of other places in the world.  but its better to acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them rather than to be all emo and hate our country.  you don't see any one (correct me if I'm wrong Tanuki) from Germany going "baaaawwwwwwwwwww  nazi's were evil" /cut
Do you even know how fu[sup:1m89dpwm][/sup:1m89dpwm]cking irritating it is to have somebody call me a nazi just because I'm half a german and live there, no matter how green my views probably are? I really don't get why people have to be bigots despite knowing Germany is totally different nowadays.
 We'll I don't recall anyone calling you a Nazi. in fact there were/are Nazis all around the world not just in Germany,

i call him a nazi on skype all the time for lulz.
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2009, 04:54:59 AM »
Nazis don't just live in Germany Tanuki. Nazis can be around the world. Well anyways, Nationalsozialistiche HQ is in Germany - therefore it will be called Nazi country. Blame Hitler for that!

About the two-sided, well history is very colorful and even history is such a long story, People will still be interested about it because - yeah it's a long story and you just can't imagine why the world today exists. And kids will have nothing but to accept the fact that America has a lot of issues - without that, America might be different - I can't imagine that.

Poor African people. I take pity of them because they're poor, plus thousands are killed because of those "blood diamonds".

I was really impressed with how Japan regained its integrity. Even they were bombed twice (Imagine mini-nukes bombing a small country), they still stood up and carried on. But some Japanese blame themselves for attacking America - America is so strong (I agree with them). They just fought Manchuria for oil that America had been aware of that. America told Japan to pull off their troops from Manchuria. They wouldn't listen. America declared war.

Really Japan can't help it. They need oil for industrialization. I wonder what Akihito did to develop Japan.
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2009, 06:15:10 AM »
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Same thing has occured with the Muslim or Islamic faiths.
Definitely, first thing your average american sees a muslim with a turban and a beard the security guys have to go check because he might be a terrorist. And terrorists come in all shapes and sizes and from every part of any spectrum, look at the RAF in Germany, so that prejudice is totally uncalled for.

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Nazis don't just live in Germany Tanuki. Nazis can be around the world. Well anyways, Nationalsozialistiche HQ is in Germany - therefore it will be called Nazi country. Blame Hitler for that!
While far-right parties exist everywhere, Nazism is a german thing. Though ironically enough there's loads of Russian Neonazis and Sweden's got huge amounts too. Racism isn't uncommon in America either, or at least that's the general stereotype of the south dem yankees like Eliot enforce. And ps eliot I <3 you so don't worry

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About the two-sided, well history is very colorful and even history is such a long story, People will still be interested about it because - yeah it's a long story and you just can't imagine why the world today exists. And kids will have nothing but to accept the fact that America has a lot of issues - without that, America might be different - I can't imagine that.
What are you even trying to say? There's something about the stereotypical american lifestyle that really scares me, and that's probably the ignorance and apathy to stuff like that. And about the Pearl Harbor vs Hiroshima/Nagasaki thing, I talked to an american who lives over here about it and she was saying I should go watch the movie because the bombing of the military base is OH SO BAD in comparison to nuking two cities. And then I ranted about the tourist thing.

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Poor African people. I take pity of them because they're poor, plus thousands are killed because of those "blood diamonds".
There's far more going on down there than just that, be it genocide, dictators, starvation and whatnot.

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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2009, 06:45:57 PM »
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2009, 03:38:30 PM »
seriousely? Threads like these don't need this type of nonsense.

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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »
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seriousely? Threads like these don't need this type of nonsense.
this whole thread is nonsense.

lern2getfactsstraight before you post this assfest again.
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Re: ITT we talk about How the earth is governed
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2009, 05:10:07 PM »
Here, this is for you GDKN
also this thread can only go downhill from here.

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