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Title: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 15, 2009, 09:45:08 PM
Homebrew on the DS here I come! (I bought from realhotstuff.com)

I'll let you guys know when it arrives. :D
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 18, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Homebrew on the DS here I come! (I bought from realhotstuff.com)

I'll let you guys know when it arrives. :D


oh gee.  if you need help with anything DS related, im the guy to ask.  Ive been doing this stuff before there were slot-2 DS boot solutions, let alone slot-1.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 18, 2009, 12:43:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a Slot-2 (Ez 3-in-1) but didn't want to pay for it. :P

Still hasn't arrived yet... means that I'll have to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday. :(

I can't wait! :D
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: DarkAndroid on January 18, 2009, 03:10:45 AM
god, i read the title as:
I just ordered a GlaDOS.

but whats so great about a CycloDS
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Tanuki on January 18, 2009, 03:26:53 AM
Quote from: "DarkAndroid"
but whats so great about a CycloDS
You get to pirate games and run silly homebrew apps.

It's great, there's even a tracker available out there, really cool.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 18, 2009, 03:27:48 AM
Quote from: "DarkAndroid"
god, i read the title as:
I just ordered a GlaDOS.

but whats so great about a CycloDS
:P

Here's what they say on the website. (http://http://www.cyclopsds.com/cgi-bin/cyclods/engine.pl)
Quote from: "TeamCycloDS"
CycloDS Evolution Features

  • Completely plug & play - no FlashMe, PassMe or PC software required
       
  • 100% compatibility, supports clean ROM's - works on any OS
       
  • RealTime Save function, allowing you to save and restore the state of gameplay at any time
       
  • Wii connectivity in games is supported
       
  • Full NDS download play support
       
  • Action Replay compatible cheat code engine, comes bundled with over 300 cheat codes for over 300 games!
       
  • Uses MicroSD card, both FAT16 and FAT32 supported
       
  • Supports the MicroSDHC specification, allowing for high capacity memory cards
       
  • Save type is automatically detected, no need for a save type database
       
  • Save directly to MicroSD rather than onboard flash
       
  • User friendly, easily skinnable interface. Both touch screen and button operation supported
       
  • Multi-lingual user interface
       
  • "Enhanced Mode" which provides powerful, unique features during game play. Enhanced features are activated through an in-game menu. Enhanced mode features include:
              --- RealTime Save which allows you to save and restore the state of gameplay at any time
              --- Adjust LCD brightness during game play (NDSLite only)
              --- SlowMotion mode which can be used to slow down game play to make fast paced action sequences easier to master
              --- Return to CycloDS Evolution Menu (aka soft reset)
              --- More features to come!
       
  • Excellent homebrew compatibility thanks to the DLDI auto-patcher
       
  • 2 megabytes of onboard flash memory which contains the CycloDS Evolution OS and will be utilised in the future to add exciting new features. A recovery mode is also included.
       
  • Autoboot mode which when activated will directly boot into the last ROM or homebrew application executed
       
  • Moonshell included to provide media playing functionality
       
  • PassMe function (boot from slot 2)
       
  • Supports rumble and memory expansions, without any special user interaction required

Basically the best FlashCard on the market for the DS.
(i.e. a flashcard is basically a file browser on your DS allowing you to do things you didn't think the hardware could handle.)


EDIT:
Quote from: "Tanuki"
You get to copy games you own onto it and run silly homebrew apps.

fix'd ;]
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Roxas on January 18, 2009, 08:57:28 AM
Wow, awesome! I might just get one now.
Would I be able to run GBA roms on it?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Tanuki on January 18, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
EDIT:
Quote from: "Tanuki"
You get to copy games you own onto it and run silly homebrew apps.
fix'd ;]

Like you're going to go dump rom images of your DS cartridges onto your computer. You need other tools for that. :V



But homebrew-wise there's some pretty cool stuff, ranging from irc clients to ports of visual novels, trackers and drawing applications and more, as well as countless emulators for most consoles including NES, SNES, MegaDrive/Genesis, Gameboy, and apparently even Neo Geo, etc.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 18, 2009, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: "Roxas"
Wow, awesome! I might just get one now.
Would I be able to run GBA roms on it?

yes and no.  depending on your setup you MAY be able to.  If you get a cycloDS and want GBA homebrew and roms you need a slot-2 card too like an EZV 3-in-1

as far as emulation goes, i havent come across a single NES game it cant emulate (in fact, many games can use advanced features like savestates, and fast forward/rewind).  SNES depends on the game.  Obviously games like SMRPG and starfox are not going to emulate well with the DS's arm 9 and arm 7 processors and only 4 MB of ram.

also, good luck dumping your own game images without an EZV Mr.Mr.  It takes FOREVER to do it over wifi.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 20, 2009, 07:53:18 PM
IT HAS ARRIVED!

I love it. 8)
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 20, 2009, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
IT HAS ARRIVED!

I love it. 8)


very nice.  Install Moonshell, Pocket physics, puzzle maniak, and nitro tracker now!
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 20, 2009, 09:26:53 PM
Tried DSOrganize 3.2, works but the web browser is broken.

Tried DSDoom, loads first menu but when I try single player is goes black screen.

Everything else I've tried works though.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 20, 2009, 11:05:07 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Tried DSOrganize 3.2, works but the web browser is broken.

Tried DSDoom, loads first menu but when I try single player is goes black screen.

Everything else I've tried works though.

Dsorganize's Web browser sucks anyway.  web browsing sucks in general on the DS.  I suggest DS hobro (it captures pages and turns them into images with links mapped to them on your computer and then streams them to your DS) if you must do web browsing.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 20, 2009, 11:44:03 PM
Yea I know I deleted it.

Any help on DSDoom?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Tanuki on January 21, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Yea I know I deleted it.

Any help on DSDoom?

[s:2bq9k61a]I'm not sure about DSDoom, but I'm kinda suspecting you need a slot-2 like with that quake2 port[/s:2bq9k61a]

Edit: perhaps you should just try searching (http://http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&hs=kGM&q=DSDoom+howto&btnG=Suche&meta=)
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 21, 2009, 06:40:42 PM
Haha nevermind I got it already, thanks anyways.

I LOVE THIS THING.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on January 21, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
For Web browsing, I use Bunjalloo from quirkysoft (http://http://code.google.com/p/quirkysoft/), which is pretty much as good as homebrew Web browsers can get without needing a PC nearby.

Also, POWDER (http://http://www.zincland.com/powder/index.php?pagename=about) is lots of fun.

By the way, copying games you own onto your MicroSD card is technically piracy, since it breaks the copy protection on the games, thereby violating the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Even if the game's purchaser and no one other than the game's purchaser gets the ROM. Now you know one reason why the DMCA is disliked by a number of people. That said, I'm a proud owner of five ROMs that I ripped myself using software available for the CycloDS. I'm a pirate. Arrrr.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: DarkAndroid on January 22, 2009, 12:03:10 AM
does a CycloDS look like a DS?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on January 22, 2009, 12:13:33 AM
No, it looks like a DS game card. If you ignore the MicroSD slot.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 22, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
http://stillaliveds.free.fr/index.php?page=download (http://stillaliveds.free.fr/index.php?page=download)

this is an epic homebrew game if i do say so myself
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 22, 2009, 09:00:59 PM
Lol this topic is now about DS Homebrew!

Mainly I have the card for homebrew anyways so... :wink:
I have Bunjalloo, it's cool and all that he has accomplished this so far, but it's SLOW. I wish he would at least add in code for text formatting, colors, and backgrounds for websites.
So far on my card I have... DSDoom, DSQuake, Bunjalloo, SnEmulDS, nesDS, Lameboy, Warcraft: Tower Defense, Colors!, CaveStoryDS Demo, Moonshell, and DS2Win. I'm still adding stuff!
(I tried to load SMWarDS but I think it needs a slot-2 so I didn't bother.)

CycloDS was well worth the $50.

BTW: Anyone know anything about Cave Story DS progress? Looked on Google and found nothing.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 26, 2009, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Lol this topic is now about DS Homebrew!

Mainly I have the card for homebrew anyways so... :wink:
I have Bunjalloo, it's cool and all that he has accomplished this so far, but it's SLOW. I wish he would at least add in code for text formatting, colors, and backgrounds for websites.
So far on my card I have... DSDoom, DSQuake, Bunjalloo, SnEmulDS, nesDS, Lameboy, Warcraft: Tower Defense, Colors!, CaveStoryDS Demo, Moonshell, and DS2Win. I'm still adding stuff!
(I tried to load SMWarDS but I think it needs a slot-2 so I didn't bother.)

CycloDS was well worth the $50.

BTW: Anyone know anything about Cave Story DS progress? Looked on Google and found nothing.


Just an fyi.  SMWar Ds=fail.  dont even bother with it.  

also, CavestoryDS is pretty much dead.  the author hasnt posted an update in nearly 2 years.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 26, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
Quote from: "eeliottheking"
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Lol this topic is now about DS Homebrew!

Mainly I have the card for homebrew anyways so... :wink:
I have Bunjalloo, it's cool and all that he has accomplished this so far, but it's SLOW. I wish he would at least add in code for text formatting, colors, and backgrounds for websites.
So far on my card I have... DSDoom, DSQuake, Bunjalloo, SnEmulDS, nesDS, Lameboy, Warcraft: Tower Defense, Colors!, CaveStoryDS Demo, Moonshell, and DS2Win. I'm still adding stuff!
(I tried to load SMWarDS but I think it needs a slot-2 so I didn't bother.)

CycloDS was well worth the $50.

BTW: Anyone know anything about Cave Story DS progress? Looked on Google and found nothing.


Just an fyi.  SMWar Ds=fail.  dont even bother with it.

also, CavestoryDS is pretty much dead.  the author hasnt posted an update in nearly 2 years.
SMWarDS is a no go then.

I beg to differ on Cave Story DS. (http://http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/05/13/the-dirt-on-cave-story-ds-cave-story-engraved-ds/) <- That was in May 2008.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on January 26, 2009, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"

SMWarDS is a no go then.

I beg to differ on Cave Story DS. (http://http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/05/13/the-dirt-on-cave-story-ds-cave-story-engraved-ds/) <- That was in May 2008.

yes, but it had virtually nothing to do with the actual development of the port... it just discussed them getting the original creator a new DS... also, thats still 7 months ago.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on January 26, 2009, 11:01:25 PM
Well... someone needs to start a new port to the DS. :|

Actually, a little more detective work on Google reveals that Pixel himself requested that all ports of Cave Story, official and homebrew, be put on hold until the WiiWare enhanced version of Cave Story is released in all major territories, so that it can actually make a profit.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 02, 2009, 10:00:49 AM
ooh, CycloDS. Got an R4 myself which I got for $10, it's great.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on February 02, 2009, 08:54:49 PM
Quote from: "Outrage"
ooh, CycloDS. Got an R4 myself which I got for $10, it's great.

except the R4 dev team is dead and rom support is starting to suck now.   i have both :p
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 02, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
I just got the latest firmware update for CycloDS, now my backup of Chrono Trigger DS works without using cheats!
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 04, 2009, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: "eeliottheking"
Quote from: "Outrage"
ooh, CycloDS. Got an R4 myself which I got for $10, it's great.

except the R4 dev team is dead and rom support is starting to suck now.   i have both :p

lol no

I'm curretntly playing new games like NFS UnderCover, Call of Duty World at War and KSSU. Works great.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 04, 2009, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: "Outrage"
I'm curretntly playing new games like NFS UnderCover, Call of Duty World at War and KSSU. Works great.
Is it any good?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 04, 2009, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Quote from: "Outrage"
I'm curretntly playing new games like NFS UnderCover, Call of Duty World at War and KSSU. Works great.
Is it any good?
Yeah, not bad. A HUGE improvement over the Most Wanted DS game, anyway.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 04, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Cool I might have to buy it and load up the backup on my CycloDS.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 04, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Cool I might have to buy it and load up the backup on my CycloDS.

why buy games if you have a flashcard

save up for somethign more important
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 04, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Cool I might have to buy it and load up the backup on my CycloDS.

why buy games if you have a flashcard

save up for somethign more important
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 04, 2009, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: "Outrage"
why buy games if you have a flashcard

save up for somethign more important
Lol italicizing is fun!
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 04, 2009, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Quote from: "Outrage"
why buy games if you have a flashcard

save up for somethign more important
Lol italicizing is fun!
what?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 04, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
Quote from: "Outrage"
Quote from: "Mr Mister"
Quote from: "Outrage"
why buy games if you have a flashcard

save up for somethign more important
Lol italicizing is fun!
what?
It was sarcasm. Don't worry about it. lol
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 05, 2009, 04:06:32 AM
If you're not using this (http://http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=7&id=129&artlang=en) and this (http://http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=7&id=133&artlang=en) to get all your NDS/GBA ROMs, you're not cool. At least, not in my book.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 05, 2009, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
If you're not using this (http://http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=7&id=129&artlang=en) and this (http://http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=7&id=133&artlang=en) to get all your NDS/GBA ROMs, you're not cool. At least, not in my book.

ooh

some guy on the internet doesn't think I'm cool because I don't use a flashcard he likes

I'm a failure :[[[[[
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 05, 2009, 06:10:34 PM
*whoosh*

That was my point, flying right over your head. Do I need to explain it to you, or would you like to click those links again and try to get it?

EDIT: On second thought, I'm going to do away with the subtlety and paint the complete picture. That way, Outrage has at least a chance of getting it.

In the real world, people can be roughly divided into a lower class, a middle class, and an upper class, depending on how wealthy they are. But the Wonderfully Weird Web is a society that operates on an entirely different set of rules. Thus your position in the social hierarchy is determined largely by what you do, and people can be roughly divided into a n00b class, a mundane class, a creative class, and an awesome class.

Maybe I'm egotistical, but I like to think that I'm part of the creative class. Whereas the mundane class will simply look at something and think, "Oh, that's cool", the creative class will recognize how much effort it took to produce a creative work. An SMWar map took a bit of editing and playtesting, a piece of pixel art took a lot of messing about with minute details, a good Flash cartoon took a pile of effort to make sure the characters looked and moved right, and an official Super Mario game took mountains of brainstorming, programming, graphics work, music composition, and localization, not to mention getting the people responsible for all of that to work together.

Because the members of the creative class can see all the effort it took to create something, we have no problems with fulfilling the wishes of our fellow creatives, provided those wishes are reasonable given the amount of effort put into the work. I found the wish of the POWDER developer to be very reasonable: he just wanted me to e-mail him. So I did. I think I made him very happy by doing that; he added a feature I wanted to POWDER Release 110.

The n00b class, on the other hand, is characterized by a distinct lack of appreciation for effort. Thus they tend to think things like:
If you want to start climbing the social ladder, Outrage, you've got either purchasing or deleting to do. Since you're frugal, I recommend going the deletion route and then downloading POWDER. If you like it, hey, e-mail is free.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 05, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Repeat after me: Do not take the internet seriously.

.

That is all.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 05, 2009, 08:25:59 PM
FYI, I actually enjoyed writing all that; it forced me to think about how the Internet social hierarchy works, and I got some interesting insights during my musings. I'm going to write a blog post about it soon.

The moderators around here would likely prefer that I get back on topic, rather than continue to speak of Internet social classes. I'd rather do both. :) So, perhaps we could talk about what homebrew NDS software would be useful to folks of the creative & awesome classes. Someone already mentioned NitroTracker for the musically-inclined, I think, but what about art programs, hm?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 05, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
Well Colors! is pretty excellent for an art program. :P
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on February 05, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
FYI, I actually enjoyed writing all that; it forced me to think about how the Internet social hierarchy works, and I got some interesting insights during my musings. I'm going to write a blog post about it soon.

The moderators around here would likely prefer that I get back on topic, rather than continue to speak of Internet social classes. I'd rather do both. :) So, perhaps we could talk about what homebrew NDS software would be useful to folks of the creative & awesome classes. Someone already mentioned NitroTracker for the musically-inclined, I think, but what about art programs, hm?

also, i dont think outrage realized that you were linking him to software, but rather another flashcard.  i think this is a misunderstanding more than it is outrage falling into a low internet social class.  the internet is what you use it for.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Tanuki on February 06, 2009, 12:44:40 PM
Art-wise, try UAPaint (http://http://www.nds-zone.com/bassacegold/?cat=7). For animations, try out Animanatee (http://http://deku.gbadev.org/program.html). Those are the two best drawing apps I've found so far, colors is pretty cool too. UAPaint is more for sprites really, rather similar to MS Paint.

Also, Mario Paint Composer (http://http://www.nds-zone.com/bassacegold/?p=136), kinda like that one PC "port".

If you like reading visual novels, vnds (http://http://digital-haze.net/vnds.php). Really cool.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 06, 2009, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: "eeliottheking"
i think this is a misunderstanding more than it is outrage falling into a low internet social class.

I'm fairly certain I haven't misunderstood that Outrage is downloading games that he's supposed to buy in DS game cards.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Outrage on February 06, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
Quote from: "eeliottheking"
i think this is a misunderstanding more than it is outrage falling into a low internet social class.

I'm fairly certain I haven't misunderstood that Outrage is downloading games that he's supposed to buy in DS game cards.
I'm saving for my education, thank you. And don't give me bullshit that I must "support the developer" or something because you don't when you buy games. The developers are already supported if retailers buy copies of their games from them. If YOU buy a copy of a game in a store, who gets the money? The store.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Agastya on February 07, 2009, 12:55:38 AM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
fulfilling a request for money isn't necessary if there's a way around it

there's a shareware and a freeware application that does the same exact thing.

one simply downloads the freeware, while the other pirates the shareware.

are they really any different?
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 07, 2009, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: "Outrage"
I'm saving for my education, thank you. And don't give me **** that I must "support the developer" or something because you don't when you buy games. The developers are already supported if retailers buy copies of their games from them. If YOU buy a copy of a game in a store, who gets the money? The store.
Zing!
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on February 08, 2009, 01:21:36 AM
obligatory stop arguing about piracy post.  SMWar uses graphics ripped from mario games.  aren't we stealing from them by not paying them royalties for their content?  so in reality you are being a hypocrite by flaming him for downloading "stolen" content when you are posting on a forum for a game that does the same thing.  :p
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 09, 2009, 01:26:10 AM
Quote from: "eeliottheking"
SMWar uses graphics ripped from mario games.  aren't we stealing from them by not paying them royalties for their content?
No, thanks to fair use (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) - one of those aspects of copyright law that our government got right.

Quote from: "LKA"
there's a shareware and a freeware application that does the same exact thing.
one simply downloads the freeware, while the other pirates the shareware.
are they really any different?
Yes. A shareware developer requests money and a freeware developer does not. If you meet the requests of the developer, I have no problem with you.

Quote from: "Outrage"
And don't give me **** that I must "support the developer" or something because you don't when you buy games. The developers are already supported if retailers buy copies of their games from them. If YOU buy a copy of a game in a store, who gets the money? The store.
If the retailers already have plenty of copies of a game on their shelves because a bunch of people are pirating the game instead, are they gonna get more copies?

Quote from: "Outrage"
I'm saving for my education, thank you.
Three words: Freeware, freeware, freeware. Freeware developers are awesome. They make cool stuff just because they wanted to, and then they generously give it out instead of trying to make a quick buck off of it. I've been playing Negative Space (http://http://beyondds.free.fr/index.php?Negative-space) recently. Neat game.


To everyone: My dream is to make a living being part of the games creation process. But if people don't send enough money in return for the games I'll help to create, I'll have to go get a real job. Stomp on Bowser's minions, not my dreams.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: eeliottheking on February 09, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
a bunch of stuff

and then there are people like me who simply dont care about any of that and are going to continue pirating regardless of moral values. thank you for your understanding.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Kabukiguy on February 09, 2009, 08:43:14 PM
pirating is for niggs.


real men steal from stores instead of the internet.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 09, 2009, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
To everyone: My dream is to make a living being part of the games creation process. But if people don't send enough money in return for the games I'll help to create, I'll have to go get a real job. Stomp on Bowser's minions, not my dreams.
Hey I've told 72dpiarmy before that I also want to develop professional games, but it's not like there's not 1 person out there that wouldn't pirate the game I eventually create anyways. Piracy is really something that devs (like me in the future, hopefully) just have to live with, they just have to make their game so good so that there is an internal war among the pirates about being moral, eventually getting pirates to actually buy their game. :P

Quote from: "GDKN"
pirating is for niggs.


real men steal from stores instead of the internet.
You sir is awesome.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Turndawg107 on February 11, 2009, 12:27:24 AM
The real matter of game development is making a game people willingly want to pay for.  One always has to understand that his/her game WILL be pirated.  It's not a question of if it'll be pirated, but how you'll make the game appeal enough to make the would-be pirates want to pay for it instead.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 11, 2009, 01:24:12 AM
Quote from: "Turndawg107"
The real matter of game development is making a game people willingly want to pay for.  One always has to understand that his/her game WILL be pirated.  It's not a question of if it'll be pirated, but how you'll make the game appeal enough to make the would-be pirates want to pay for it instead.
My thoughts exactly. :)
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Pikadude No. 1 on February 11, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
But people of the n00b class are going to pirate things regardless of their quality, if they have the chance. People of the n00b class can recognize coolness when they see it, but they have no appreciation for the effort it took. Try asking a member of the n00b class where they got that really funny image they posted; they probably won't remember.

The key is asking for something that's reasonable given the amount of effort you put into a game; that way, you're sure to get it from members of the creative & awesome classes. If you put in a little effort, you could ask for $5, maybe $10. If you put in a good amount of effort, you can ask for $20. If you're Nintendo, you can probably get away with asking for $50.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: MrMister on February 11, 2009, 09:03:30 PM
...And If your Square-Enix you can impose a 5-10$ tax on all of your games.
Title: Re: I just ordered a CycloDS
Post by: Turndawg107 on February 11, 2009, 11:44:38 PM
Quote from: "Pikadude No. 1"
But people of the n00b class are going to pirate things regardless of their quality, if they have the chance. People of the n00b class can recognize coolness when they see it, but they have no appreciation for the effort it took. Try asking a member of the n00b class where they got that really funny image they posted; they probably won't remember.
I already pointed this out.  You can't escape this blatant fact as a developer.  You just need to make sure you can actually make sales on the people who otherwise would pirate it, and don't forget those who pirate games to test them out before buying.  As a developer you should be focusing on the people who are buying your game, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY AREN'T.  What's the point of paying attention to the non-customers and what they have to say?